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02/13/2013 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:02:10 AM Presentation: Alaska Performance Scholarship Program
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Program by Dianne Barrans, Executive Director,
Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 13, 2013                                                                                        
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Lynn Gattis, Chair                                                                                              
 Representative Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                       
 Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                
 Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                     
 Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                     
 Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Gary Stevens, Chair                                                                                                    
 Senator Mike Dunleavy, Vice Chair                                                                                              
 Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                           
 Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                        
 Senator Berta Gardner                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 All members present                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION: ALASKA PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DIANE BARRANS, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education                                                                                    
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED)                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Presented   information  about  the  Alaska                                                             
Performance Scholarship Program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN RAE, Assistant Director                                                                                                   
Research and Policy Analysis                                                                                                    
Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education                                                                                    
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED)                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Presented   information  about  the  Alaska                                                             
Performance Scholarship Program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:32 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GARY STEVENS  called the  joint meeting  of the  House and                                                             
Senate  Education  Standing  Committees  to order  at  8:01  a.m.                                                               
Present  at the  call to  order were  Senators Stedman,  Huggins,                                                               
Gardner,   Dunleavy  and   Chair  Stevens,   and  Representatives                                                               
Saddler, Seaton, Drummond, and Chair Gattis.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: Alaska PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM                                                                         
      PRESENTATION: ALASKA PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:02:10 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS  announced that  the  committee  would be  hearing                                                               
about the  outcomes of the  Alaska Performance  Scholarship (APS)                                                               
Program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DIANE   BARRANS,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Commission   on                                                               
Postsecondary  Education,  Department   of  Education  and  Early                                                               
Development (DEED),  thanked Chair  Gattis and Chair  Stevens for                                                               
the  opportunity to  provide information  about the  APS Outcomes                                                               
Report for 2013.  She said the information  represents just three                                                               
semesters   of  data,   but  has   interesting  indicators.   She                                                               
introduced Brian Rae, the report's author.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
BRIAN  RAE, Assistant  Director,  Research  and Policy  Analysis,                                                               
Alaska  Commission  on  Postsecondary  Education,  Department  of                                                               
Education   and   Early   Development  (DEED),   emphasized   the                                                               
collaborative efforts  between the  University of  Alaska System,                                                               
DEED, the Department of Labor  and Workforce Development, and the                                                               
Commission. He thanked his colleagues  at the partnering research                                                               
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE explained  that the report is laid out  similarly to last                                                               
year's report.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTIS   noted  the  arrival   of  Representative                                                               
LeDoux.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE reviewed  the topics he would cover  in the presentation.                                                               
He  began  with the  first  topic:  where APS-eligible  graduates                                                               
reside. He showed  tables of residency based  on school district.                                                               
He noted that there are  several regulations that protect student                                                               
privacy,  especially the  Family Educational  Rights and  Privacy                                                               
Act (FERPA). Some  data for smaller districts  must be suppressed                                                               
in order to protect student privacy, such as eligibility data.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  related that  48  out  of the  54  small districts  graduated                                                               
students that  were eligible for the  APS the first two  years it                                                               
was available. He said that  graduates from 42 of those districts                                                               
made use of the scholarship.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  reported that  with 40  percent  of the  state's high  school                                                               
graduates, Anchorage  has the highest number  of APS-eligible and                                                               
recipient students.  Fairbanks is  a distant second,  followed by                                                               
Mat-Su and Kenai.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:05:48 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  if  the reason  the percentages  of                                                               
scholarship recipients cannot be known  in the smaller schools is                                                               
because that would give away who received them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE   answered  yes.   Under  FERPA   guidelines,  education                                                               
attainment  and  levels of  performance  are  not reportable  for                                                               
small districts.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX inquired if it is a state or federal law.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE replied that it is a federal regulation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS noted the arrival of Senator Stedman.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER requested  clarification  if 48  of the  smaller                                                               
schools had students that were eligible for the APS.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE answered that was correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER related  that she  counted 27  districts in  the                                                               
Academic Year 2012 that had no eligible graduates.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE clarified that the asterisk  does not mean that there are                                                               
no students that qualify; it  means that those students cannot be                                                               
reported.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  asked if Chugach  School District,  which boasts                                                               
of a  98 percent  graduation rate,  had some  of the  13 students                                                               
that graduated qualify for the APS.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE answered that was correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:07:45 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN  recalled  that  last year  there  was  talk  of                                                               
combining some of  the remote schools' data in order  to put some                                                               
validity in the  report. He noted that he represents  some of the                                                               
smaller  districts and  receives no  useful information  from the                                                               
report. He asked for the status of that suggestion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  explained that  report includes  a breakdown  by region,                                                               
and small school information was aggregated by region.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND asked why  Fairbanks was a distant second                                                               
to Anchorage  in terms  of the number  of graduates.  She assumed                                                               
the number of  graduates and the number of  eligible graduates is                                                               
in proportion to the size of the school district.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE related  that Fairbanks is second in terms  of the number                                                               
of  eligible  graduates and  third  in  terms  of the  number  of                                                               
graduates.  He said  it  is not  always the  case  that there  is                                                               
proportionality  between  the  number   of  graduates  and  those                                                               
eligible for  the APS.  Statewide, 27.2  percent of  graduates do                                                               
achieve APS eligibility.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:09:24 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS asked if Haines  is twice as eligible as everyone                                                               
else at 65 percent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE said  oftentimes school  districts have  wide ranges  of                                                               
students that  have achieved  APS eligibility.  He could  not say                                                               
why Haines reported that way.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  stated that he  is amazed at the  difference and                                                               
it is worth looking into.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX inquired how many  students a school has to                                                               
have  in order  to  be able  to report.  She  noted that  Gateway                                                               
School District  has 13 graduates.  She questioned  why reporting                                                               
one or two  students as eligible for the APS  would give away who                                                               
it was.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  explained a rule  that states  that a student  cannot be                                                               
easily identified by a person  who has local knowledge; therefore                                                               
a number that  is five or greater can be  reported. If the number                                                               
of eligible  students is  less than  five, the  information would                                                               
not be reported.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:11:48 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  returned to the subject  of Alaska Gateway                                                               
with  13  students and  said  it  was  wrong  to assume  that  no                                                               
students were eligible for the APS.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said  that is correct; there could be  anywhere from none                                                               
to four students eligible.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  did not understand  why they could  not be                                                               
reported.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE stated that DEED must follow federal regulations.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS said fewer than five is the suppression number.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE replied yes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS noted the arrival of Representative Reinbold.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  spoke of  the regional  analysis listed  on page                                                               
four of the report, which does  not show any consolidation of the                                                               
village  schools   in  Southeast   Alaska.  It  only   shows  the                                                               
consolidation of  all schools in  Southeast Alaska;  however, the                                                               
larger school  data should  not be  combined with  smaller school                                                               
data.  He noted  the data  does  not provide  the information  he                                                               
needs and he  requested that village school  data be consolidated                                                               
in future reports.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  asked about  the  data regarding  Mt.  Edgecumbe High  School                                                               
which shows 18  percent eligible recipients. He  pointed out that                                                               
Mt. Edgecumbe  is probably the top  high school in the  state. He                                                               
questioned the low score.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS responded  that she could share  numbers from schools                                                               
with legislators  if the numbers  were sufficiently  large enough                                                               
to share.  The purpose of the  APS Outcomes Report is  to present                                                               
broad information to the public.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  asked if Senator  Stedman was satisfied  with that                                                               
option.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  replied that he  was. He emphasized that  one of                                                               
the discussion  points since  the inception of  the APS  has been                                                               
the disadvantages that rural schools  face against urban schools.                                                               
He opined  that it was  not good  public policy to  withhold data                                                               
related to small schools.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  addressed Senator  Stedman's question  regarding Mt.                                                               
Edgecumbe.  She  said  the  report   presents  the  data  as  the                                                               
department   receives  it.   She  suggested   having  a   further                                                               
discussion  with  administrators  from Mt.  Edgecumbe  about  the                                                               
percentage of qualified students.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:16:39 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RAE pointed  out  that there  were a  very  small number  of                                                               
school districts  that dominate  the percentage of  graduates for                                                               
districts  with 70  percent. Also,  there  were eleven  districts                                                               
that had fewer  than 10 graduates, which is why  there is so much                                                               
suppression in the data.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He reported that,  statewide, 27.2 percent of  last year's public                                                               
high school  graduates were eligible  for the APS, a  number that                                                               
was down slightly from 29 percent  the previous year. Some of the                                                               
decline can  be attributed to year-to-year  fluctuation. However,                                                               
there  was an  increase in  curriculum requirements  necessary to                                                               
become   eligible   for   the  APS.   The   rigorous   curriculum                                                               
requirements are being  phased in through 2015 in  order to allow                                                               
students time  to adjust their  course-taking patterns.  He noted                                                               
large  differences between  the  districts regarding  eligibility                                                               
percentages.  Nine of  the suppressed  districts had  eligibility                                                               
rates that were above 35 percent,  and six of those districts had                                                               
eligibility rates above 40 percent.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He presented  data by regions  in the  state. He stated  that the                                                               
pattern of  APS eligibility and  usage is fairly similar  to last                                                               
year's  report. He  said he  found  this data  to be  interesting                                                               
because  there  are such  large  differences  in the  numbers  of                                                               
graduates coming from  the various districts and it  is easier to                                                               
make  cross-region comparisons  using  percentages. The  Interior                                                               
region  had the  highest  percentages  of graduates  academically                                                               
eligible to receive  an APS award at 30.4 percent.  The Far North                                                               
Region had  the lowest percentage  of eligible graduates  at 11.2                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  explained that school  districts within the  regions did                                                               
differ.  For  example, Nome,  in  the  Far  North Region  had  an                                                               
eligibility  rate   that  was  6  percentage   points  above  the                                                               
statewide  average.  However,  when the  percentage  of  students                                                               
eligible for  the award  was considered, both  the Far  North and                                                               
the Interior Regions had the  highest usage rates for the awards.                                                               
Approximately, one half  of the eligible students  from these two                                                               
regions did take advantage of the APS.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNLEAVY  asked  if middle  school  courses  in  smaller                                                               
schools are being used in the formula to determine eligibility.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE replied that he was not aware of any.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  said that provision  did not apply during  the first                                                               
two years  APS was  in place.  She explained  that last  year the                                                               
legislature passed  a law that allowed  DEED, through regulation,                                                               
to  promulgate rules  around  which a  high  school level  course                                                               
taken in  middle school could  be transcripted as  satisfying the                                                               
APS curriculum. This  provision will apply for the  first time to                                                               
the graduates in 2013.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNLEAVY summarized  that it  was a  high school  course                                                               
taken by middle school students.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:20:34 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked if all  schools are operating  on an                                                               
even playing  field. She  inquired how  students qualify  for the                                                               
APS, by standardized test or by grades.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS   said  the  requirements  to   qualify  have  three                                                               
components which  are set  in regulation.  The student  must have                                                               
completed certain  curricular requirements, have a  certain grade                                                               
point  average, and  have a  certain score  on the  SAT, ACT,  or                                                               
WorkKeys Assessment. If one of  those three components is missing                                                               
they do not qualify.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX gave an example  of a student qualifying in                                                               
one region, but not in another.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  explained that all  students also have to  achieve a                                                               
level of  achievement on nationally  normed tests,  regardless if                                                               
there is a variation in bell curves between regions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  insisted  that  was  only  one  of  three                                                               
qualifications.  She continued  to distinguish  between a  harder                                                               
school district versus a lower level district.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  explained that a  student would not qualify  for the                                                               
scholarship with a lower than 2.5 grade point average.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE clarified  that there are three different  scores used to                                                               
determine eligibility.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX reiterated her concern.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  explained that the  award level  is based on  the lowest                                                               
score of the three.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:24:32 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  restated that if the  school districts are                                                               
not on the same level the comparison is not equal.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE  maintained  that the  standardized  test  scores  would                                                               
equalize that.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS added  that  the  state does  not  receive the  test                                                               
scores; the schools determine which students are eligible.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  asked if all  school districts offer  the necessary                                                               
classes in  order to qualify  for the scholarship and  if on-line                                                               
or correspondence courses are acceptable.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS  noted that  Commissioner  Hanley  was available  to                                                               
answer questions later on in the presentation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  requested that  Chair  Gattis  hold her  question                                                               
until later.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:27:14 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked for  clarification regarding the 11                                                               
percent of graduates from the Southeast School District.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE explained  that data is an attempt to  show the magnitude                                                               
of the scale of different regions.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS said the numbers total 100 percent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said "hopefully." He  continued to discuss exhibit 3, the                                                               
AY  12 public  school graduates,  eligibility, and  recipients by                                                               
ethnicity and gender. There are  large differences in eligibility                                                               
rates  by  ethnicity.  On  average, 27.2  of  all  graduates  are                                                               
eligible for the APS, and  35 percent of Caucasian graduates were                                                               
eligible, and 10.5  percent of Alaska Native  and American Indian                                                               
graduates. Once a  student becomes APS eligible,  the usage rates                                                               
are  much more  similar across  ethnic groups  with one  in three                                                               
graduates taking advantage of the scholarship.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  reported  that  when  reviewing  eligibility  and  usages  by                                                               
gender, female graduates are somewhat  more likely to be eligible                                                               
to  receive the  APS. The  gender differences  seem to  disappear                                                               
when considering usage.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND wondered  about  the  percent of  Alaska                                                               
Native  and  American  Indian  eligible   for  the  APS  who  had                                                               
participated in the ANSEP program.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:29:55 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. RAE said he would love to be able to research that issue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  thought it would  be difficult to  do so                                                               
due to the small numbers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked if students  can use this scholarship                                                               
for out-of-state colleges.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE said  the requirements  say it  is for  in-state schools                                                               
only.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  surmised that one of  the reasons students                                                               
who are eligible  don't use the scholarship is  because they plan                                                               
to attend school in another state.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said that was correct.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNLEAVY inquired  which other  institutions accept  APS                                                               
scholarships.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  referred to an  appendix in  the report that  provides a                                                               
list of all schools that accept the scholarship.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS commented that there is an extensive list.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNLEAVY  asked if Alaska Pacific  University and Wayland                                                               
Baptist University  are on  the list. He  noted they  are private                                                               
schools. He asked if there could be sectarian schools, as well.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  understood  that  public  money  was  not                                                               
supposed to go  into religious or private education.  She did not                                                               
understand why APS was constitutional.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:32:42 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. BARRANS replied  that the history of financial  aid in Alaska                                                               
is that  students can take their  financial aid to any  school of                                                               
their choice  as long as the  school is accredited. That  has not                                                               
been challenged in court.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  discussed exhibit 4  that shows  award levels for  AY 12                                                               
and AY 11, with  an increase in the usage of  the APS by eligible                                                               
students by all award levels.  He attributed this to an increased                                                               
awareness of the scholarship and a longer planning time.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  noted the count in  level two only differs  by one                                                               
student.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  responded that there  was an  increase in the  number of                                                               
eligible level two recipients.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  continued  with  exhibit  20   -  a  survey  of  respondents'                                                               
knowledge about the APS and  their eligibility status. He related                                                               
that in  the first  year, only 55  percent of  graduates reported                                                               
being  aware  of  their  APS eligibility.  For  the  most  recent                                                               
graduating  class,  70  percent  were  aware.  He  compared  data                                                               
between the two groups.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:37:02 AM                                                                                                                    
He  said  next  two  exhibits   show  in-state  and  out-of-state                                                               
attendance patterns by award level in  AY 11 and AY 12. He shared                                                               
conclusions of that data as it  relates to all U.S. graduates and                                                               
to  Alaska graduates.  He detailed  changes between  APS eligible                                                               
graduates in Alaska during the two years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:39:52 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked if they  were going to  track post-                                                               
secondary completion rates.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said yes. He discussed  exhibit 7 - APS recipients in the                                                               
fall  following graduation  by award  level  and expected  family                                                               
contribution (EFC). He noted that  financial need is not a factor                                                               
in determining eligibility in these  students. For data purposes,                                                               
students were  broken down into  four quartiles based on  EFC. He                                                               
reported that  students eligible for  the top award level  and in                                                               
the  higher  income  bracket  were   more  likely  to  use  their                                                               
scholarship in AY 12 compared to AY 11.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER requested clarification of the chart.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE explained the categories on the chart.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked about a category.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE clarified the data.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked for an explanation of 93 percent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE explained the highest quartile.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS noted it was a head count number, not a percent.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked about income numbers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  said those  numbers are included  in the  report itself,                                                               
but not in the chart.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  concluded   that  the  highest  quartile                                                               
represents the wealthiest families.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said correct.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  for the  conclusion the  committee                                                               
should draw from the chart.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  summarized the data on  the chart. He related  that more                                                               
students  fell into  eligibility level  one this  year than  last                                                               
year.  In  the   third  quartile,  the  family   is  expected  to                                                               
contribute a  greater amount toward the  student's education, yet                                                               
there was an increase in the  most recent year. Both these groups                                                               
show the largest gains from year to year.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  concluded  that more  students  who  are                                                               
eligible for the top award are using it and attending in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  said that was correct.  In order to receive  the APS the                                                               
student must attend in Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  stated that  the program is  working well                                                               
to encourage students to attend college in Alaska.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said the evidence points to that.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:45:43 AM                                                                                                                    
He  explained  exhibit  8  -  APS  recipients  and  postsecondary                                                               
attendance  by  institution. He  said  that  overwhelmingly -  99                                                               
percent  -  were  attending  one  of  the  University  of  Alaska                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS noted that attendance  at the other universities is                                                               
quite small.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said that was correct. He  turned to exhibit 9 - how much                                                               
in APS  funds was awarded and  for what types of  enrollment. The                                                               
majority  of APS  recipients are  enrolling in  bachelor's degree                                                               
programs; nearly 88 percent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He explained  exhibit 10 shows  that APS recipients  are enrolled                                                               
on a full-time  basis. He pointed out that the  only other factor                                                               
besides the  eligibility level,  that affects  the amount  of the                                                               
award,  is the  student's enrollment  status. Part  time students                                                               
see a 50 percent reduction in their maximum scholarship amount.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked if the Y axis is dollars.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE answered  yes. He  continued to  explain that  full time                                                               
recipients of  the APS were  awarded $5.3 million total  for both                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He noted  that the use of  the scholarship in any  quarter counts                                                               
against the  8 semesters of  eligibility. There is a  very strong                                                               
incentive for a student to attend full time.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:48:33 AM                                                                                                                    
He explained exhibit  13 - public high  school graduates pursuing                                                               
postsecondary  degree/certificate  at  UA   within  one  year  of                                                               
graduation. He noted that there  was only preliminary information                                                               
on students' educational attainment  and none on students' future                                                               
workforce success.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  addressed information  about  educational  attainment of  APS                                                               
students, of which  there is very little data  available to date.                                                               
He listed  the advantages of  students who  pursue post-secondary                                                               
education immediately upon graduation from high school.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  stated it was  too early to draw  conclusions, but                                                               
asked how many years of data would  be needed in order to see the                                                               
impact of the APS.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE replied  that the earliest timeframe would  be four years                                                               
after  the first  year's graduating  class. That  may have  to be                                                               
extended to six years for comparison with non-APS students.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  asked if  the shift  from four  to five  or more                                                               
years  in order  to obtain  a college  degree is  nationwide. She                                                               
inquired what factors may be influencing that trend.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE said  it  does appear  to be  a  nationwide trend.  Many                                                               
reporting metrics now consider graduation  rates within six years                                                               
to be a reporting mark.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS wondered  if it  was due  to lack  of jobs  in the                                                               
market.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS agreed  it was nationwide, but added  that there were                                                               
differences  between   the  rates  at  which   students  complete                                                               
college, depending  on type of  school. Highly  selective schools                                                               
typically have on-time completion  rates; community colleges have                                                               
longer completion rates.  More students are taking  longer due to                                                               
lack of academic preparation or for economic reasons.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER read  that the APS was  amended to include                                                               
vocational schools.  He wondered what conclusions  could be drawn                                                               
from that  change. He noted  that vocational  certificate seekers                                                               
were  1.6 percent  of  APS  recipients versus  3  percent of  all                                                               
graduates.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE asked Representative Saddler about his calculations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  clarified that  he  was  looking at  the                                                               
bottom row on the far right  of the chart. He said the conclusion                                                               
he has  drawn is that  those who  got the APS  scholarship sought                                                               
certificates less than the general population of graduates.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  responded that  he was  going to say  the same  thing in                                                               
reverse:  APS recipients  are more  likely to  pursue a  bachelor                                                               
degree and less  likely to pursue a vocational  certificate or an                                                               
Associate's  Degree  than  the   general  population  of  student                                                               
graduates.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  recapped exhibit 13  - APS  students are more  likely to                                                               
finish  a  degree and  require  less  remediation if  they  start                                                               
college earlier.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:57:42 AM                                                                                                                    
He  turned  to   exhibit  12  (out  of   order),  which  contains                                                               
information about which students  required preparatory courses at                                                               
the  start  of  post-secondary  education. Of  3,284  first  time                                                               
freshmen at UA, 892 received  APS awards. Students ineligible for                                                               
the  APS  were   nearly  three  times  more  likely   to  take  a                                                               
preparatory class than were APS recipients.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked where that information could be found.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE explained  where it was on exhibit 12.  He concluded that                                                               
the  numbers  are  preliminary,  but  the  average  APS  eligible                                                               
student  would have  earned  13.2 credit  hours  applicable to  a                                                               
degree  at the  end  of fall  semester,  whereas, the  ineligible                                                               
student would have earned only 8.5 hours.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked what  this information is supposed to                                                               
show.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  commented that the  data shows  that an APS  student has                                                               
achieved  a  high  academic  level and  will  perform  better  in                                                               
college.  It shows  that incentivizing  students to  attend early                                                               
leads to better success in college.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked if they  are attending early  due to                                                               
the APS scholarship.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  commented that when  comparing the AY  11 and the  AY 12                                                               
class, it shows that some aspects  of APS come into play, such as                                                               
attending college in state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS  said  that  over time,  more  trends  would  become                                                               
apparent. She added  that, ideally, there would  be more students                                                               
qualifying  for  APS. She  wished  to  see  more data  about  APS                                                               
students   and  non-APS   students  in   order  to   reach  solid                                                               
conclusions about the impact of the program.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER opined  that the slide shows  that the APS                                                               
is having its intended effect.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:04:12 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. RAE turned to exhibit  14 - postsecondary attendance patterns                                                               
for AY 11  APS eligible graduates. He shared  data regarding that                                                               
group,  noting  the  pattern of  attendance.  Eighty  percent  of                                                               
students were attending post-secondary education somewhere.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE explained exhibit 15  - postsecondary attendance patterns                                                               
for  AY 11  non-APS  eligible graduates.  He related  information                                                               
about attendance.  Sixty-seven percent  were not  attending post-                                                               
secondary education.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He discussed exhibits  16 and 17 - AY 11  public school graduates                                                               
receiving a fall 2011 APS, and  how many continued to receive the                                                               
scholarship  in subsequent  semesters.  Over 90  percent in  that                                                               
category  returned to  continue  with their  education using  the                                                               
APS.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:08:25 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked what "returned" means.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE clarified which students the data was referring to.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  suggested   different  wording  such  as                                                               
"utilized" the scholarship.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE said the students were "receiving the payment."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS added that the data shows persistence rates.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  said the Interior Region  had the highest usage  rate of                                                               
any region.  Seventy-five percent of those  students who attended                                                               
in the fall  of 2011, continued to receive the  award in the fall                                                               
of 2012.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  noted students may  be enrolled in college,  but not                                                               
receiving the  award if they  failed to meet the  requirements to                                                               
continue to receive the award.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS asked  if the  limit on  semesters counts  against                                                               
them in that case.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS answered no.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked about the  eligibility requirements                                                               
of  continuing  to receive  the  scholarship  once a  student  is                                                               
enrolled in college.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE  replied  that  he  would  address  that  later  in  the                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:11:10 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. RAE said  the student's award level is the  best predictor of                                                               
success. He noted  that 80 percent of award  level one recipients                                                               
in the fall of 2011 were  still receiving the award the following                                                               
fall.  For levels  two  and  three, the  percentage  drops to  60                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He discussed exhibit  18 - AY 11 public  school graduates meeting                                                               
"continuing   eligibility   requirements"    (CER).   The   first                                                               
certification of a student's  continuing eligibility occurs after                                                               
the  student has  received two  semesters or  three terms  of APS                                                               
awards. Full time students must  have earned at least 24 semester                                                               
credit hours and  maintained a GPA of 2.0 or  higher. He said the                                                               
Interior Region  had the highest  percentage of  students meeting                                                               
the  CER at  90  percent.  The Southwest  region  had the  lowest                                                               
number of students not meeting CER at 30 percent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He noted  that 93 percent of  level-one students met the  CER and                                                               
78 percent and 79 percent of levels-two and three did so.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked about eligibility as  it relates to                                                               
the eight semesters.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  said the 8-semester  clock does not continue  to run                                                               
if a student is ineligible, but the 6-year clock does.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  showed exhibit 19 -  persistence of AY 11  APS recipient                                                               
high  school  graduates  attending  UA in  the  fall  immediately                                                               
following graduation. Nearly 83  percent of APS recipients return                                                               
to school the following year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE discussed  exhibit  22 -  the percentage  of  AY 11  APS                                                               
eligible  graduates  receiving an  award  in  the fall  2012  and                                                               
working  at any  time  during  fiscal year,  by  award level.  He                                                               
explained what each bar means on  the graph. He concluded that it                                                               
is too soon to determine how the APS affects future earnings.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:16:38 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   asked  if   the  data   includes  summer                                                               
employment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE answered that it includes any wages, including summer.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He talked  about exhibit 23  - percentage  of AY 11  APS eligible                                                               
graduates receiving an  award in the fall of 2012  and working at                                                               
any time  during fiscal year,  by award amounts. He  said similar                                                               
patterns emerged.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said he did  not know what conclusions  were being                                                               
drawn.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:18:25 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. RAE  said the interest in  this baseline wage data  is in the                                                               
future, and in the relationship of high academics to work.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS suggested working is good for everyone.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER found it interesting  that the two extremes start                                                               
out together and then diverge.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS said  it is important to see what  impacts success in                                                               
post-secondary education.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER noted  the data is from UA and  not many students                                                               
are going  to private institutions.  She wondered  about students                                                               
attending private  schools and the  problems related to  them, as                                                               
seen in the Lower 48.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  suggested that Alaska's  private schools do not  fit the                                                               
description of those down south.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  reiterated that she  would like to see  the data                                                               
at some point for students that attend non-UA schools.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  explained the  conclusions of  the previous  slides. The                                                               
first couple  of slides showed  that students at  different award                                                               
levels showed slightly different employment patterns.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  related that  exhibit  24  is the  percentage  of  AY 11  APS                                                               
eligible graduates  receiving an  award in the  fall of  2012 and                                                               
working  in  four  quarters  during the  fiscal  year,  by  award                                                               
amounts. Between 22 percent and  30 percent of students worked in                                                               
their  junior  year in  high  school.  Those who  received  lower                                                               
awards were  more likely than their  peers to have worked  in all                                                               
four quarters.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:23:16 AM                                                                                                                    
He explained exhibit 25 - average  earnings of AY 11 APS eligible                                                               
graduates receiving an  award in the fall of 2012  and working in                                                               
four quarters during  the fiscal year, by award  amounts. He said                                                               
the students with the highest  awards have the lowest wage income                                                               
in  college.  He  concluded  that most  students  focus  more  on                                                               
education than work.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  asked if  there  is  a connection  between  hours                                                               
worked and wages.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAE commented  that an  assumption  could be  made that  the                                                               
students were working entry level jobs.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:25:31 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS thanked the presenters.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  wondered  what  was going  on  in  other                                                               
states in this area.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  replied that he  has compared Alaska data  to Wyoming's.                                                               
Alaska's  Department of  Labor captures  more  data than  Wyoming                                                               
does.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked  if  Mr.   Rae  had  come  to  any                                                               
conclusions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAE  answered that  he was  struck by  the difference  in the                                                               
populations  in AY  11  and  AY 12  due  to  having an  increased                                                               
awareness  and more  time to  consider options  related to  post-                                                               
secondary choices for those in AY 12.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked  if there were any  future legislative issues                                                               
that need to be discussed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  answered no.  She explained  that the  Commission is                                                               
working  on  a project  with  DEED,  DOL,  and  UA to  develop  a                                                               
statewide  longitudinal   data  system   regarding  student-level                                                               
information. She  said she  hopes the impact  of the  APS Program                                                               
will go  beyond the impact of  financial aid and have  effects on                                                               
the   aspirations  and   preparation   of   the  entire   student                                                               
population.  She  said  the  project  is  three  years  out  from                                                               
implementation.   Currently,    the   discussion   is    how   to                                                               
appropriately and securely collect data  and make it available to                                                               
practitioners and districts, as well as to the public.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:29:51 AM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Stevens  adjourned  the  Joint  House  Education  Standing                                                               
Committee and Senate Education Standing Committee at 9:29 p.m.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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